I believe that there are two things that you can do to become an expert with these two programs: practice (obviously) and watch others use them (not so obvious, apparently).
I try to find some really good practices for those wanting to practice, and sometimes, I'm fortunate to find video tutorials (like the crazy posters found here, video double below). Here's a good one for Illustrator. And of course, like all of my vids I post, it's quite interesting for the un-artist too.
"Spacegirl"
"Science Machine"
Watching the science machine kinda made me feel all drugged up...not in a good way though, more like a chris farley type of way. Sad.
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